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Re: [apsa_itp] Can committees create great ... whatever's?
- To: apsa_itp@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Michael Allan" <mike@xxxxxxxxx>
- Subject: Re: [apsa_itp] Can committees create great ... whatever's?
- From: "Lee McKnight" <LMcKnigh@xxxxxxx>
- Date: Sun, 19 Aug 2007 22:43:38 -0400
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Michael, Before getting to the real world, may i suggest a homework assignment? 1) Google" Diebold california electronic voting systems" and read articles like: California voting machine security tests uncover serious vulnerabilities California Bans E-Vote Machines CA Source Code Report: Diebold Voting Machines Can Be Hacked With Virus by Single Person, Affecting Entire Election", By Ryan Paul | Published: July 29, 2007 - 11:35PM CT How E-Voting Threatens Democracy (In sum, e-voting with live people and physical machines is not, um, let's be polite and say it's not fool-proof...and over the net? Well a number of computer scientists have been working hard foir years to prevent online e-voting in real elections, because they don't trust the technology. And you propose to massively scale it up?) OK, to be fair, experimental and real e-voting systenms are in use around the world, and yeah tradiitional voting has all sorts if (known) flaws too. But to just say well the financial system relies on online systems (and loses billions per year), doesn't reassure me that e-democracy as you envision is ready for more than, well more homework on your part before proposing others join in your hypothetical thoight experiment. Assuming away the real challenges of e-democracy and e-voting reminds me of the approach more typically taken taken by economists than that of poliitical scientists. best, Lee Prof. Lee W. McKnight School of Information Studies Syracuse University +1-315-443-6891office +1-315-278-4392 mobile >>> Michael Allan <mike@xxxxxxxxx> 8/19/2007 5:50 AM >>> On Sat, Aug 18, 2007 at 06:42:01PM -0500, Steffen W Schmidt wrote: > Lets shift the discussion a little bit. Is elitism all so bad. Idealism > rocks. Unless we make unfounded assumptions about human behavior as > especially mob behavior. I've been too bold with paper ideas. You guys are right, the next step is to test them against reality. > In a Highly Complex World, Innovation From the Top Down ( Ha! We'll see about that. ;) -- Michael Allan -- apsa_itp mailing list served by Harvard-MIT Data Center List Address: apsa_itp@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.hmdc.harvard.edu/?info=apsa_itp -- apsa_itp mailing list served by Harvard-MIT Data Center List Address: apsa_itp@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.hmdc.harvard.edu/?info=apsa_itp
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